July 15, 2025

Ep. 111 - Why Mobile Video Crushes Traditional TV - Stephen Upstone

Ep. 111 - Why Mobile Video Crushes Traditional TV - Stephen Upstone

In this episode of Future Fuzz, Justin sits down with Stephen Upstone, Founder and CEO of LoopMe, a pioneer in mobile video advertising and AI-powered brand performance. With over two decades of experience, Stephen discusses how mobile video is outperforming TV advertising, the power of mid-funnel metrics, and the transformative role of AI in ad tech.

From his early days selling an AI company to Adobe to LoopMe’s recent acquisition of Chartboost, Stephen shares actionable insights on real-time measurement, survey-based audience targeting, and the future of brand advertising in a mobile-first world.

Guest Bio

Stephen Upstone is the Founder and CEO of LoopMe, a mobile ad tech company revolutionizing brand advertising through AI optimization and real-time survey data. With two successful exits and one IPO under his belt, Stephen has spent over 20 years at the intersection of AI, mobile, and advertising. He was previously on the board of TouchClarity, an AI business acquired by Adobe, and continues to push innovation at LoopMe, whose platform processes over 300 million surveys annually and integrates across 30,000 mobile apps. Under Stephen’s leadership, LoopMe has scaled globally and recently acquired Chartboost to expand its end-to-end mobile capabilities.

Takeaways

  • Mobile video now rivals and can outperform traditional TV advertising.
  • Mid-funnel optimization is key: actions like brand consideration are more measurable and actionable than ever.
  • LoopMe runs 300M+ real-time surveys a year, enabling powerful, forward-looking audience insights.
  • AI is not just hype—true computational AI drives massive efficiency in ad performance.
  • Creative still matters: AI may generate concepts, but human editors remain vital for quality.
  • The ad tech winners are those who embedded AI early and use it across media, measurement, and optimization.

Chapters

00:00 Welcome and Introduction to Stephen Upstone

01:05 Why Results Matter More Than Setup

02:15 How Mobile Video Can Beat TV

04:03 The Shift to Mid-Funnel Metrics

05:26 Why TV Metrics Are Outdated

07:15 LoopMe’s End-to-End Stack and Tech Partners

09:28 Real-Time Surveys vs. Panels

12:53 Stephen’s First AI Company and Adobe Exit

14:59 Real Use of AI vs. Hype

17:28 The Future of Generative AI in Creative

22:39 Market Outlook: Green Shoots & Challenges

25:39 Why Brand Advertising During Downturns Matters

27:00 Acquiring Chartboost & Expansion Plans

29:12 Audio, Influencer Marketing, and What’s Next

30:23 Closing Remarks

LinkedIn

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